Interesting points Gary. I find it interesting, the point you mention about value and perception. To me, that's what value boils down to completely, so it can often prove to mean different things to different individuals. That's why some people refuse to over spend on something they don't feel is worth it, but will break the bank on something someone else thinks is non-sense. They each have a different perception of what is valuable to them. This was a great topic dude. I found it extremely valuable :-)